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I considered joining in with this discussion, but i thought of an easier way to win.

06.05.2011 14:42
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Bubboleth Wrote:
I said Islam (the Religion) is inherently violent. Some Muslims strictly follow Islam but, like virtually any other religion, most don't. Those pious Muslims who follow the commands and reasoning process in the Koran and Hadiths pose a much higher risk of killing non-Muslims because their religion demands it. Those who view it as nothing more than a nice setting for marriages and funerals don't pose that problem.

I don't have a PhD. My study is history with a focus on Eastern Europe and the Middle Ages. In order to understand war, one must understand politics, economics, religion, psychology, and philosophy. The result of a broader education means that connections between one point and another are made much easier. I remember one military strategy used by the Romans, I see the same strategy used by the Carolingians, and find out that old Roman military books had survived and were being studied even in the 'Dark" Ages.

When discussing more controversial topics in which the best work is also the most obscure, it is best to cite the main sources because people don't believe the information one is arguing.

Philosophy departments (and their degrees) are pointless today because far more serious study of philosophy is done by historians and theologians. Virtually no new work (outside of logic) is worthwhile. If you really want to study philosophy, pick up a history book or a philosophy book written before the 1960s.


Well if that's what your point was, then I concede. Although, I'll let the readers of this discussion decide whether or not that was your point thus far, or if you were being partisan toward Christians compared to Muslims. I mean, the initial debate was about Muslims and their beliefs, Muslim by the way means "Follower of Islam". Same goes for Christian to Christianity. Anyways like I said, I'll let the readers of the discussion determine whether you're just taking this turn as of now or if that was your initial argument.

I will say this, I always conceded to religions being violent on Both the Christian and Islamic sides, and I also pointed out the brotherhood the followers of both share. You're actually more closely linked to Islam in your beliefs than to Judaism. You both follow the old testament, except you've added on holy books of your own.

Believe me, Jesus was no "Prince of Peace". He simply believed that he didn't need to wage war on his enemies on Earth, he could do so in the after-life. Isn't that violent? And isn't it true? I mean, as a Christian you must believe it as so, or so says those same passages from Luke.

Agreed on philosophy.
Obviously my thing is political science, but you can't understand the present without knowing the past. So I've made an emphasis in understanding the past to improve the future. I study all the fields you've mentioned including the sciences which spawn off of the social sciences. From art to biology to aeronautics. A general education on all topics is the difficulty with the fields we've entered, you can never truly be considered proficient, as it's not relative but indeed quantative to all world knowledge.


Politics has no relation to morals.
The Prince, Niccolo Machiavelli
The Prince- A dedication and political maneuver by Niccolo Machiavelli to prove his advice's value to the maintenance of the ruling Florentine Medici Political force.

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06.05.2011 20:51
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Post: #93
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Pardon me, Bubboleth

Helsworth posed a question to you (post #89): "How do you feel about christian zionists?"


"...while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." (Romans 5:10-11)
14.05.2011 06:24
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Commissar Wrote:
Helsworth posed a question to you (post #89): "How do you feel about christian zionists?"

Why can't we have a non-religious, non-racist Zionism? Then we can finally kill people for no other reason then the expansion of an Israeli state inoffensively devoid of content. The problem with the Israeli state is that it only conquers outward, out into the middle east. The minds, bodies and souls of the people within the state must also be conquered, or the conquering flow will cease and Israel will collapse on itself.

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Triniteras Wrote:

Commissar Wrote:
Helsworth posed a question to you (post #89): "How do you feel about christian zionists?"

Why can't we have a non-religious, non-racist Zionism?

Are you shure you know what Zionism means ?Suspect


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14.05.2011 13:11
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Are you shure you know what Zionism means ?Suspect

If it were non-religious and non-racist it would then mean something else.

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Triniteras Wrote:

Globaltom Wrote:
Are you shure you know what Zionism means ?Suspect

If it were non-religious and non-racist it would then mean something else.

Well yes ,you can say so ?


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14.05.2011 18:16
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Triniteras Wrote:

Commissar Wrote:
Helsworth posed a question to you (post #89): "How do you feel about christian zionists?"

Why can't we have a non-religious, non-racist Zionism?


Because then it would no longer be Zionism, duh. Nono

14.05.2011 20:10
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