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German politics, Merkel, and the CDU

I'm American and I'm just wondering what Germans think of Angela Merkel and the CDU (Christian Democratic Union, Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands).

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I for one think of the oranges, regardless of their euphemistic description, as a real bad influence for european political economy.


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What exactly wonders you most ?Kopfkratz


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I'm member of the CSU (chistian seocial union, a sister-party of the CDU, only present in bavaria) an I do really think there are too much left parts in her politics - so we don't need financial-transaction taxes for example.

But on the other hand, "Angie" is much better than any other candidate from other parties Wink

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But on the other hand, "Angie" is much better than any other candidate from other parties Wink

And you say that as an impartial citizen right? Hehe


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27.07.2010 14:24
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I personally dislike the CDU, the name alone bothers me (Christian Democratic Union). We know how it typically end's when the center right are in charge. They support war, are "business friendly", wan't to decrease benefits, and in this case they raised taxes.
Now that they are coupled with another "business friendly" party (FDP) instead of the SDP, I've lost hope. We still pay a church tithe!

I've run into to people that blamed the SDP (before the new coalition) for the lowering of social benefits, when it's very obvious that the CDU typically call's the shots, because of party discipline and the rewards of higher position that comes from it. Baden-Württemberg's CDU controlled, nationaly and locally. And people seem to have blamed the SDP for that.

I hate it when nations become enfatuated with how the U.S. has low taxes. That mentality of "I don't need to pay taxes for the police, I never use them anyway" get's on my nerves. Or what a friend recently said to me "why should I pay taxes for other people who are unemployed", when he himself applied for social assistance, but was denied.

I hate it when people wan't lower taxes, but expect to magically continue reciving quality education, health and social services. I'm starting to see that America's craze with blaming big government for everything, is comming into Germany. Germany is very sucessful and is the second largest exporter in the world, but the CDU is not to praise for that. Look at some of the poverty rates for states in Germany. Germany also has no statutory minimum wage, thanks to Merkel "business friendly" policies.


Freedom to live in poverty, is no freedom at all.

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My god Guys . Can t you make your trenchfights in the German
part ( as you do permanently) Rolleyes.

I am wondering if this was it that wonders other countries Kopfkratz


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ReligiousRight Wrote:
I'm American and I'm just wondering what Germans think of Angela Merkel and the CDU (Christian Democratic Union, Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands).


Angela Merkel is somewhat interesting. A female conservative chancellor (from Eastern Germany!) was weird first but she manages to maintain control. Actually she doesn't do much, but this seems to fit very well to the usual German attitude to complain about every change. While her last coalition partner (social democrats) suffered a lot from ruling, her party was still as popular as before. Now it looks like she burns another coalition partner (economy liberals), perhaps she is already looking for the third one (alternatives / greens). Think of a black widow. Hehe

Anyway, I believe she really cares about people, it's not only about power. She usually looks stressed and sad but her management during the crisis was appreciated by the population. Some people make fun of her because she isn't typical female, calling her a neuter. I think it's a real challenge to get the complete picture.

About the party: As a moderate left I dislike the CDU, especially its stubborn arrogance and its slow reactions to changes (after all, they are conservative).


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Are there polls that I can look at to see her approval in Germany and stuff like that?
Being American I like that she sees Barack Obama for who he really is and doesn't take him seriously. Generally the only demographics in America that still like him are people who share the same skin color as him and those who would dont work and would prefer to to vote money for themselves.

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Anyway, I believe she really cares about people, it's not only about power. She usually looks stressed and sad but her management during the crisis was appreciated by the population. Some people make fun of her because she isn't typical female, calling her a neuter. I think it's a real challenge to get the complete picture.


How can someone be sad when advocating cutting kindergelt to children of the unemployed? Almost half of the single mothers with children live below the poverty line.

"Other measures which Der Spiegel said were agreed included reducing parent allowances by €500 million, while other social provisions are said to no longer be protected from cuts." http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20100606-27675.html

Savings of €2 billion should be achieved by allowing the federal work agency more room for making independent decisions about what benefits unemployed people receive – instead of being strictly bound to legal limits. This is expected to deliver up to €6 billion by 2014, Der Spiegel said.
http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20100606-27675.html

Yes, the German government does wan't to raise taxes on businesses as well as autobahn tolls for transport trucks, but how can someone be caring and cut benefits to those who need it the most? If she does care, but still wan'ts to cut social benefits for those who need it and for those who one day hope to have it, then it shows a great lack of character. I think there are better way's of dealing with debt other than her austerity.

I can understand the choices are hard, but depriving people who need the support to survive... I could never sympathize with any leader advocating austerity.


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27.07.2010 21:27
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