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Seoul Security Council

Seoul Security Council



The Seoul Security Council is the world's most powerful international body, with primary responsibility for the maintenance of global peace and security. Every national government has one (1) vote.

Resolutions may proposed by any national government, and a simply majority of "YEA" votes is required for any and all resolutions to pass and go into effect.

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Attention Sovereign Governments of Seoul:

As per the structure of the recently established Security Council, please feel free to use this forum to propose a resolution for consideration.

Your humble servant,

-Dain

Dain Ironfoot II, World Leader


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RE: Seoul Security Council

Oganda Plans for Sera Resolution



The Nation of Oganda has dreams of leading the people of Africa out of darkness and into the future. Poverty, corruption and internal political conflict has brought generations of Africans nothing but death and suffering. Now, Oganda leads the developing world in terms of economic progress and human development.


Oganda hereby announces its plan to intervene in the so-called "Republic" of Sera, which has neglected its people while its despotic rulers have grown fat and rich.


Oganda and Sera share a common ancestry dating back to ancient tribal times. By ancestral right, Oganda has claim to this land, and has a responsibility to help its brothers and sisters to the northeast.

However, Oganda is not an imperialistic nation, and wishes to publicly inform the world of the situation before continuing with the next phase.

Our nation requests that the world community support us, that we may bring a quick end to the suffering in Sera.

Kofi Okonkwo
President of Oganda


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cloudsky01 Wrote:

Oganda Plans for Sera Resolution



The Nation of Oganda has dreams of leading the people of Africa out of darkness and into the future. Poverty, corruption and internal political conflict has brought generations of Africans nothing but death and suffering. Now, Oganda leads the developing world in terms of economic progress and human development.


Oganda hereby announces its plan to intervene in the so-called "Republic" of Sera, which has neglected its people while its despotic rulers have grown fat and rich.


Oganda and Sera share a common ancestry dating back to ancient tribal times. By ancestral right, Oganda has claim to this land, and has a responsibility to help its brothers and sisters to the northeast.

However, Oganda is not an imperialistic nation, and wishes to publicly inform the world of the situation before continuing with the next phase.

Our nation requests that the world community support us, that we may bring a quick end to the suffering in Sera.

Kofi Okonkwo
President of Oganda


Mangarzian will provide no military support in this conflict. However, I support the action with my vote, leaderless countries go against the The principles of Principala.

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(Viktor Zubkov - Chairman of the Yuzhprom Group)


'Yuzhprom has concerns on reduction of national voices'



Yuzhnygrad

Viktor Zubkov the Chairman of the Yuzhprom Group Board stated today he has concerns on the formation of the Seoul Security Council without the formation of a Seoul General Assembly. Specifically the Chairman regards the Council without the Assembly has hugely undemocratic and flawed. He spoke at a press conference:

"The Yuzhprom Group approves the spirit of the Seoul Security Council. However the idea that alliances are competent to speak for all its members uniformly is fundamentally flawed. And the notion that unaligned nations can speak for ALL remaining unaligned nations is even more flawed. How can a state who is unaligned be allowed to represent a state it is perhaps in conflict with? How can the state being 'represented' by the state it's in conflict be sure its interest will be adequately reflected?

Such a scenario must be acknowledged and acted upon if global security is to be successful. The Yuzhprom Group as a corporate sovereign has every need to see a sound and safe global environment in which it can freely trade. It requires an environment where it will have the ability to independently represent its interest solely, its alliance, allies, and commercial partners in an independent fashion but utilizing a platform international in scope. As such the Yuzhprom Group is preparing to found the Seoul Congress of Nations. The Congress will discuss the most pressing international issues, seek to resolve them, and will regulate the activities of the Security Council. The council will be a body of nations and not alliances and each nation shall have the right of a vote and a voice on all issues presented.

We motion to establish this body not in competition but in complement to the Security Council. In order to secure a balanced and democratic world order."


Viktor Zubkov is the Board Chairman of the Yuzhprom Group. The leader is considered the equivalent of a national head of state and is thus empowered to represent the corporation internationally. The Board sets the general direction of the company and the Chairman certifies its decisions.


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RE: Seoul Security Council



Für den Völkerbund spricht: Alexander Gonzales, Präsident der freien Republik Lorestan. / Alexander Gonzales, president of the free republic of Lorestan speaks for the Völkerbund ( english translation down below )



"Meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren,

wenn der Security Council auch ein nobles und hohes Ansinnen ist, dass den Frieden auf der Welt wahren soll, so ist sein Ansinnen in dieser Form und in dieser Institution bereits gescheitert!

Wir, der Völkerbund, widersprechen den Prinzipien, die diesem Gremium zu Grunde liegen.

Zu aller erst:

Dieses Gremium ist undemokratisch, meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, und der Völkerbund wird kein globales Sicherhheitssystem akzeptieren, dass in dieser Art undemokratisch ist.

Lediglich die Bündnisse dieser Welt finden sich hier wieder. Was aber ist denn, mit all den Staaten, wer sagt denn, dass ein Bündnis immer für die Einzelstaaten sprechen?

Das sehen und das müsst LDSS grade am Fall Siberia sehen! Nicht immer sind die Interessen Einzelner und die Interessen eines Bündnisses die gleichen.

Was sie hier schaffen wollen ist ein Gremium, dass die Eingliederung von Staaten in Supranationale Gebilde festigt und den Nationen ihrer freie ENtscheidungsfreiheit nimmt!

Sie haben sich gegen die Prinzipien der nationalen Souveränität, der Demokrate, der Gleichbehandlung und der Partizipation gewandt!

Dieser Council ist ein Schlag ins Gesicht der Neutralen Staaten, der Staaten an sich und auch noch der großen Bündnisse. Unrechtmäßig hohes Gewicht erhalten kleine Bündnisse!

Zur Verdeutlichung ein kleines Rechenbeispiel:

Ich benötige also zur Bestätigung einer REsolution 4 JA - Stimmen.

Dementsprechend:

Die AFdU stellt einen Antrag ( 3 Staaten ), die Principalia unterstützt den Antrag ( 4 Staaten), jetzt muss man nur noch die beiden neutralen Staaten überzeugen oder aber vielleicht mit großzügigen Geschenken für sich gewinnen und schon hat man die Mehrheit für eine REsolution.

Es entscheiden also 9 Staaten über Krieg und Frieden, über das Schicksal dieser WElt.

Wollen sie wirklich und ernsthaft, dass 9, NEUN, Staaten über diese Welt entscheiden? Der Völkerbund will dies sicher nicht!


Der zweite Punkt ist:

Der Völkerbund hat 16 Mitglieder und ist momentan das stärkste Bündnis der Welt. Die AFdU hat 3 Mitglieder und ist momentan das schwächste Bündnis dieser Welt.

Im Security Council haben aber beide gleich viele Stimmen und gleich viel Einfluss auf der internationalen Bühne. Das ist schlicht nicht fair und nicht richtig.

Der Völkerbund repräsentiert 16 Staaten. 16. Die AFdU repräsentiert grade mal 3 Staaten.

Mal abgesehen davon, dass mit Sicherheit in so einem Konstrukt vom Völkerbund ( als eines der mächtigsten Bündnisse ) ein Beitrag zu Militärmissionen erwartet wird und eine Unterstellung unter diesen Council erwartet wird. DIes ist schlicht nicht haltbar solange 9 Staaten, also grade mal etwas mehr als die Hälfte der Völkerbund Mitglieder, alles entscheiden kann.

Jede Entscheidung des Völkerbunds alleine hätte mehr Legitimität als dies!

Lorestan jedenfalls, wird für ein solches Konstrukt nicht einen Soldaten bereit stellen.

Aber meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, man soll ja nicht meckern ohne eine Alternative zu benennen!

Der Völkerbund schlägt ihnen das Folgende vor:

Jeder Kontinent hat einen Basisdemokratischen Kongress in dem alle Staaten des Kontinents einen Sitz haben.

In diesem Rat werden dann die sicherheitspolitischen Fragen der Region debattiert und mit einfacher Mehrheit beschlossen.

Ein übergeordneter Senat hat dabei jedoch ein Veto-Recht. Die Räte entsenden den Senator aus ihren Reihen!

Dies ist eine basisdemokratische Lösung die nicht die Fakten ignoriert, sie blickt nicht auf die Bündnisse, sondern auf die einzelnen Staaten. Sie behandelt jeden Staat gleich und fair. Und die nationale Souveränität wird auch nicht untergraben."



"Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

if the Security Council may be a very honourable act to ensure peace and stability in the world, so will this construction not going to be able to reach it´s goals.

We, the Völkerbund, do not support the basement of this Council.

Firstly,

This committee is undemocratic! And my dear Ladies and Gentlemen, the Völkerbund is not going to accept any security infrastructure that is not democratic.

Only the Alliances are able to speak and vote on the Council. But the LDSS should know best, that the interests of Alliances are not ever the interests of nations.

That is what we learned from the Siberia incident!

What you want to create is a system that forces nations to integrate in supranational structures, what is going to undermine their freedom and national sovereignty.

You are working against the principals of democracy, national sovereignty and participation.

This institutions is neglecting the non aligned states and the big alliances. It is in favor of the small alliances!

To make this clearer we only need to calculate a little bit:

We need 4 Votes to get a resolution accepted.

So the AFdU ( 3 States ) is going to propose a resolution. Principalia ( 4 Nations ) is going to support it.

Now the two Alliances only need to get the votes of the 2 non-aligned states, or are going to pay them, or make them presents, or contributions. And 9 states are able to decide above war and peace, above the destiny of this world.

Do you really want to let 9, NINE, states to determine what is right and what is wrong for the world? The Völkerbund does not want this!

Secondly,

The Völkerbund has 16 Memberstates and is the most important and mightiest Alliance in this world. The AFdU has 3 Memberstates and is the least important and weakest Alliance in the world.

But in the Security Council they have both the same amount of votes, have both exact the same influence.

This ist just not fair and is ignoring all the facts of the reality.

The Völkerbund represents 16 States. The ADfU only 3.

And yet you want the Völkerbund, as one of the mightiest and most important alliances, to contribute to a institution and to take part in military missions for this council. Where 9 States can make all the decisions? This is just a little bit more than half the members of the Völkerbund!

Every decision made by the Völkerbund would have more legtimacy than that!

Lorestan itself will not contribute one soldier to a construction like this.

But my dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

you shall not criticize if you do not have an alternative:

We propose a continental solution.

Every continent has its own Council, which considers matters of regional security and decides on them.

Then there is a senate above these Councils who has an Veto - Vote to these decision.

The senators are voted by the continental Councils. Everey Council sends 1 Senator.

That is an basic democratic solution, that does not ignore the facts.

It does not look on the Alliances but on the states. Every state is treated fair und even. National sovereignty will not be undermined!"


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Office of the World Leader


Attention Sovereign Governments of Seoul:

In response to several nations' objections to the proposed structure of the Security Council, my administration has since revised that structure (see above).

Your humble servant,

-Dain

Dain Ironfoot II, World Leader


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RE: Seoul Security Council

(Viktor Zubkov - Chairman of the Yuzhprom Group)



Yuzhprom Group to suspend recognition of SSC pending alliance review



Yuzhnygrad

The Yuzhprom Group Chairman Viktor Zubkov has responded to the modifications of the Security Council. The powerful Chairman cites the growing scope of the World Leaders 'power' in the council. Yuzhprom does not seek to tie the World Leaders hand, but wishes to secure its greater economic interest through the codification of laws by an institution with the backing of the major powers and the many unaligned states. The Chairman spoke:

"The Yuzhprom Group Board of Directors have deliberated; and we've voted to suspend recognition of the Seoul Security Council decisions pending alliance review. The Council from day one has been plagued with accusations that it's not truly representative of Seoul's many sovereign governments. The voting regulation of the Council also severely weakened the influence of the world's largest alliance; Volkerbund. As a sovereign corporate state and a constituent entity of the Volkerbund this is unacceptable.

While noble; the current World Leader has moved to swiftly address the chief concern of the Yuzhprom Group and many other nations. We find this move to shift the nature of international organizations by the flick of a pen is worrying. Therefore we must continue to explore alternative options than the Seoul Security Council. The alternative options must have the participation of many nations and all alliances in order to truly be successful.

JSC Yuzhprom Group will confer with its regional, international, and alliance allies and commercial partners to discuss a format that will truly be representative of their needs and beliefs. It's well known that the Yuzhprom Groups primary goal is to secure an environment where all nations can develop their economies safely. We will continue to pursue the best option to meet these ends."


The Chairman of the Yuzhprom Group has called upon other Volkerbund governments to begin internal discussions to agree on a joint alliance position on the formation of an international security format.


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Office of the World Leader


Attention Sovereign Governments of Seoul:

Please be advised that I am more than willing to discuss and negotiate the structure of the Security Council either publicly in this forum or privately via diplomatic cable.

The last thing that I want is to alienate any nation or alliance of nations. Rather, what I seek is sincere interenational cooperation.

Your humble servant,

-Dain

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