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Colombia state bug - economy -54%

Another bug, probably due to a high increase in the numbers. After I implemented basic income, things remained ok. It was only after I chose these task options that the popularity numbers started going down and extremists going up for no reason:

Fearing criminal prosecution, lobbyists and politicians now only meet on remote islands during "vacations."
Politicians who lie to get elected go to jail for perjury.
Mercur fights the explosion of population with an offer for sterilization at no cost for ages thirty and older.
Prominent right-wing extremists deny involvement, but are arrested and sentenced when a mysterious letter claiming responsibility for burning down the parliament building is 'found' during house raids in the middle of the night.

People can look at the stats here. There's absolutely no reason for these numbers of extremists. Basic income covered the living cost. There is no reason why private consumption decreased from over 150 billion to 58 billion. Hell imports are above domestic consumption. While capital shows to be increasing; this makes absolutely no sense.
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Rather bizarrely, after your GDP has been axed by more than a half and your unemployment has gone down. Curiously, automation has also increased.

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Thank you for your report, Helsworth! We are looking into this.

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Politischer Test Test site from Ars Regendi for the evaluation and comparison of political alignments

Laschet: "Das Land ist in einem schlechten Zustand!" Lanz: "Wer war denn sechzehn Jahre lang an der Macht?" Laschet: "Das hat doch damit nichts zu tun."

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What of it?
In my GDR Stromark, new indebtedness is -130.04 Bil.
In my other past states, new indebtedness was -57,936.51 Bil in Westphalian for instance. Had no problem with regent's popularity or with extremists or with economic deflation. So why is this different in Mercur?


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It's the sudden ascent that disturbed too much, sorry...


Politischer Test Test site from Ars Regendi for the evaluation and comparison of political alignments

Laschet: "Das Land ist in einem schlechten Zustand!" Lanz: "Wer war denn sechzehn Jahre lang an der Macht?" Laschet: "Das hat doch damit nichts zu tun."

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Malone Wrote:
It's the sudden ascent that disturbed too much, sorry...

Ok, so the fast upward nr change was too much for the Colombia template to handle. Guess my current GDR just got lucky...


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I guess we'll have to limit the operations with APs to one per day Hmm The influence feature was originally invented in order to save early states from big shocks.


Politischer Test Test site from Ars Regendi for the evaluation and comparison of political alignments

Laschet: "Das Land ist in einem schlechten Zustand!" Lanz: "Wer war denn sechzehn Jahre lang an der Macht?" Laschet: "Das hat doch damit nichts zu tun."

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Just got assassinated. I wouldn't limit AP use because that's going to be hugely unpopular with the players. Perchance just a warning notice in the relevant tab could do the trick.
Also, it's my belief that the Colombia template is severely bugged. I implemented basic income from the 1st playable quarter in my GDR template and didn't experience this issue. I am experimenting now with an indian template state to see how basic income will behave post-implementation.
The Colombia state has a very low capital to GDP ratio; so one would have to guess that the country's output potential is very limited and inelastic. So any economic growth above the GDP output gap should manifest itself in considerable increase in inflation - not in Ws of growth and recessions.
Once again, I maintain that the positive correlation between economic growth and unemployment growth is NOT realistic. And it doesn't matter if you're a tribal form of government or a 1st world country; economic activity means reduced unemployment. People who are willingly unemployed should not appear in the unemployed graph.


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