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semi-inspired by TriniSary6 (he must be very unproud)
All from King James Bible

Lesson 1: Genesis 1
Not too much to explain here.

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”
7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.
8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.
10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.
12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so.
16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.”
21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.”
This is why Christians hate homosexuality (not homosexuals though). We were supposed to reproduce, not have sex just for fun. Kissr44x20 Sex Sperm
23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so.
25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
As you can see, humans were made by God as the perfect being, and he was made better than all other creatures.
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
Male and female to have babies.Mama
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
This is why vegetarianism isn't bad according to Christians.
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
But vegetarianism is fine.
30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was
THE END.

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Entschuldigung für die schlechte Deutsch ich spreche Englisch
Halb inspiriert von TriniSary6 ( er muss sehr unproud sein )
Alle von King -James-Bibel

Lektion 1: Genesis 1
Nicht zu viel , hier zu erklären .

1 Im Anfang schuf Gott die Himmel und die Erde.
2 Und die Erde war wüst und leer , Finsternis lag über der Oberfläche der Tiefe, und der Geist Gottes schwebte über den Wassern .
3 Und Gott sprach: "Es werde Licht", und es ward Licht.
4 Und Gott sah, dass das Licht gut war , und er das Licht von der Finsternis .
5 Und Gott nannte das Licht " Tag" und die Finsternis nannte er " Nacht. " Und es wurde Abend , und es wurde Morgen: erster Tag .
6 Und Gott sprach: "Es werde ein Gewölbe zwischen den Wassern , um Wasser von Wasser zu trennen . "
7 Und Gott machte das Gewölbe und schied das Wasser unter dem Gewölbe von dem Wasser über ihm. Und es war so .
8 Gott nannte das Gewölbe " Himmel. " Und es wurde Abend , und es wurde Morgen - der zweite Tag.
9 Und Gott sagte: " Lassen Sie das Wasser unter dem Himmel an einem Ort versammelt werden , und lassen trockenem Boden erscheinen . " Und es war so .
10 Gott nannte das Trockene Erde "Land " und die gesammelten Wasser er " Meere. " Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
11 Dann sprach Gott: "Lass das Land produzieren Vegetation : . Samenpflanzen und Bäume auf dem Land, das Früchte tragen mit Samen darin , nach ihren verschiedenen Arten " Und es war so .
12 Das Land produziert Vegetation : Pflanzen mit Samen nach ihrer Art und Bäume tragen Früchte mit Samen darin nach ihren Arten . Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
13 Und es wurde Abend, und es wurde Morgen: der dritte Tag.
14 Und Gott sprach: "Es werde Lichter im Gewölbe des Himmels , um den Tag von der Nacht zu scheiden , und lassen Sie sie als Zeichen zu markieren heiligen Zeiten zu dienen, und Tage und Jahre ,
15 und lassen Sie sie Lichter in der das Himmelsgewölbe sein , um Licht auf der Erde geben . " Und es war so .
16 Gott machte zwei große Lichter: ein großes Licht, das den Tag und das kleine Licht zur Beherrschung der Nacht zu regieren. Er machte auch die Sterne .
17 Gott setzte sie an die Wölbung des Himmels , um Licht auf der Erde geben , 18, ​​um den Tag und die Nacht regieren, und um Licht von der Finsternis zu trennen. Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
19 Und es wurde Abend, und es wurde Morgen: der vierte Tag.
20 Und Gott sprach: " Lassen Sie das Wasser wimmelt es von Lebewesen , und Vögel sollen fliegen auf Erden unter dem Gewölbe des Himmels. "
21 So hat Gott die großen Geschöpfe des Meeres geschaffen und alles, was lebt , mit dem die Wasser wimmelt und bewegt sich in ihm, nach seiner Art , und alle geflügelten Vögel nach ihrer Art . Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
22 Gott segnete sie und sprach: " Seid fruchtbar, und nehmen an Zahl und füllen das Wasser in den Meeren, und die Vögel zu erhöhen auf der Erde. "
Das ist , warum Christen hassen Homosexualität ( Homosexuelle nicht obwohl). Wir sollten einfach nur zum Spaß zu reproduzieren, nicht Sex haben. Kissr44x20SexSperm
23 Und es wurde Abend, und es wurde Morgen: der fünfte Tag.
24 Und Gott sprach: "Lasst die Land produzieren Lebewesen nach seiner Art : Vieh und die Kreaturen, die sich am Boden bewegen , und die wilden Tiere , jeder nach seiner Art". Und es war so .
25 Gott machte die Tiere nach ihrer Art , das Vieh nach seiner Art , und alle Kreaturen, die sich am Boden bewegen nach ihren Arten . Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
26 Dann sprach Gott: "Lasst uns Menschen machen als unser Abbild, uns ähnlich , so dass sie über die Fische im Meer und über die Vögel im Himmel herrschen, über das Vieh und all den wilden Tieren , [a] und über all die Kreaturen, die sich am Boden bewegen . "
Wie Sie sehen können , wurden Menschen von Gott als vollkommenes Wesen gemacht , und er besser als alle anderen Geschöpfe gemacht wurde. Mama
27 Und Gott schuf den Menschen nach seinem Bild ,
in dem Bild Gottes schuf er sie ;
männlich und weiblich schuf er sie .
Männliche und weibliche Babys zu haben : . Mutter:
28 Gott segnete sie und sprach zu ihnen: " Seid fruchtbar und vermehren , die Erde, unterwerft sie euch . Herrschen über die Fische im Meer und die Vögel des Himmels und über alle Tiere , die auf dem Boden bewegt . "
Deshalb ist Vegetarismus ist nicht schlecht nach Christen.
29 Dann sprach Gott: "Ich gebe Ihnen jeden Samen tragende Pflanze auf dem Gesicht der ganzen Erde , und alle Bäume mit samenhaltigen Früchten in sich hat. Sie werden Ihnen für Nahrung.
Aber Vegetarismus ist in Ordnung.
30 Und zu allen Tieren der Erde und allen Vögeln in den Himmel und aller Lebewesen , die über den Boden - alles, was den Odem des Lebens in Bewegung hat es - ich gebe alle grünen Pflanzen zur Nahrung. " Und es war so .
31 Gott sah alles, was er gemacht hatte, und es war sehr gut . Und es gab

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Dude, enough with all the bible shit! All bibles were wrote by HUMAN BEINGS! If an plain guy from Montana with a bad haircut were to write some shit and say that he was divinely inspired, and that those words were the words of God/s - and would get a high following on facebook and twitter, would you believe that his books are actually the word of God?

"God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." This is the pinnacle of human made-up bullshit. God hates YOU for enforcing your beliefs on others; claiming to act in His/Her/Its name. Live and let live, man.

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Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]


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Helsworth Wrote:
Dude, enough with all the bible shit! All bibles were wrote by HUMAN BEINGS! If an plain guy from Montana with a bad haircut were to write some shit and say that he was divinely inspired, and that those words were the words of God/s - and would get a high following on facebook and twitter, would you believe that his books are actually the word of God?

"God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." This is the pinnacle of human made-up bullshit. God hates YOU for enforcing your beliefs on others; claiming to act in His/Her/Its name. Live and let live, man.

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Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]


If you hate the Bible, why would you click on a thread that says BIBLE SCHOOL in the title? If you hate it then ignore it.Groove I'm not forcing my beliefs on anybody, you clicked this. God encourages teaching Christianity and spreading the word. You can't blame me for YOU clicking on this thread. Also, where is your proof that the Bible was written by humans? Go and watch Richard Dawkins or George Carlin, and don't get involved in something you know you won't care about. It's like if I stole raisins from everybody even though I hate raisins. No I wouldn't believe I the FB God, I believe in God because there is proof of him. *cough cough* exorcisms *cough cough*. Peace.
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If you hate the Bible, why would you click on a thread that says BIBLE SCHOOL in the title? If you hate it then ignore it.Groove

I hate it because it preaches violence, bigotry, and zealous perdition to all who don't subscribe with its more than exaggerated, cruel, and arbitrary statements. That's why. Keep your personal beliefs for yourself; stop forcing them on others by explaining how you are "right" and the rest of the world is "wrong" and condemned to eternal hellfire. Your kind have been doing that since the primitive times... sanctioning all manner of bloody death and torture in order to impose their agenda on society.


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szogun Wrote:
If you hate the Bible, why would you click on a thread that says BIBLE SCHOOL in the title? If you hate it then ignore it.Groove

I hate it because it preaches violence, bigotry, and zealous perdition to all who don't subscribe with its more than exaggerated, cruel, and arbitrary statements. That's why. Keep your personal beliefs for yourself; stop forcing them on others by explaining how you are "right" and the rest of the world is "wrong" and condemned to eternal hellfire. Your kind have been doing that since the primitive times... sanctioning all manner of bloody death and torture in order to impose their agenda on society.


I didn't ask you WHY you hated it, but why you would click on this thread.

'Thou shalt not kill' The Ten Commandments

Luke 6:27-36

[27] "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [29] If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. [30] Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. [31] Do to others as you would have them do to you.

The guys weren't reading their Bibles. When did I claim I was right? Spreading the word of God is different than forcing it on people. Also, what ever happened to free speech? You've said before that you're an atheist and why you are, why can't I say why I'm a Christian? Am I inferior to you? As if you aren't guilty of the same thing
Religion, the greatest affront to God
Hypocrite.

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You can't hate homosexuality and like homosexuals.

That's just like saying you hate communism, but like communists.

Because communism is what makes a communist a communist. And homosexuality makes a homosexual homosexual.
So it's a key aspect of this person.

The bible preaches intolerance. And everything hitler did can be found in the bible.(Someone made once a good article about the bible atrocities.) E.g. where they put the enemies to death, or killed homosexuals(intolerance Zwinker2).

I would be ashamed if I would citate the bible.

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The guys weren't reading their Bibles. When did I claim I was right? Spreading the word of God is different than forcing it on people. Also, what ever happened to free speech? You've said before that you're an atheist and why you are, why can't I say why I'm a Christian? Am I inferior to you? Hypocrite.

I never claimed I was an atheist. Atheism is also a belief. The real truth is that we don't know if there's a transempirical universe, and if there is one - we don't know shit about it.
Atheism has been criticized in other threads of this forum by various members, including myself. So spare me the victimization and discrimination lines...

As for "thou shalt not kill", it's just another passage amidst many others, in which god is actively calling for murder and atrocities to be committed. The 10 commandments are from the old testament, and in the old testament, the law was "an eye for an eye." You're the one who's not been reading his bible.

How the hell can you sanction the passage "dash the heads of the children of the babylonies against the rocks."?
Nobody gives a shit what you are. You're just a clueless ignorant kid trying to attract attention to himself, hoping to what? Gather followers? Convert the agnostic?
People who are curious about christianity can very well read books, documentaries, or visit their local churches. They don't need your help to do so.


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schari3 Wrote:
You can't hate homosexuality and like homosexuals.

That's just like saying you hate communism, but like communists.

Because communism is what makes a communist a communist. And homosexuality makes a homosexual homosexual.
So it's a key aspect of this person.

The bible preaches intolerance. And everything hitler did can be found in the bible.(Someone made once a good article about the bible atrocities.) E.g. where they put the enemies to death, or killed homosexuals(intolerance Zwinker2).

I would be ashamed if I would citate the bible.


If my brother would rape somebody, I would still love him, but the actual RAPE, I would despise the rape. You can hate actions but love the people who did them, because I've done it (no my brother hasn't raped anybody). The fact that the Bible has violence doesn't mean it isn't true, just as rape, disgusting as it is, is a real thing. Also the Bible doesn't command you to kill, or rape or stuff like that (unlike one other holy book...). It is a huge sin to do really bad things.

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If my brother would rape somebody, I would still love him, but the actual RAPE, I would despise the rape. You can hate actions but love the people who did them, because I've done it (no my brother hasn't raped anybody). The fact that the Bible has violence doesn't mean it isn't true, just as rape, disgusting as it is, is a real thing. Also the Bible doesn't command you to kill, or rape or stuff like that (unlike one other holy book...). It is a huge sin to do really bad things.

Oh my god. You're so fucking clueless!!! Would you love the guy who had raped your own mother, wife, or child? GTFO with this utter bullshit!

And here's the shit from your so-called peace loving bible!
Kill All Unbelievers
"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)

David Slaughters Them
"And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes..." (I Chronicles 20:3)

Comment

Chapters 17-19 (17-18-19) tells us that David killed 22,000 Syrians and that Abishai killed 18,000 Edomites. No one expresses shame at such slaughters.

Here in 20:3, we have David, counted as a great leader of the Israelites, slaughtering captives after the cessation of hostilities. From what high moral ground should we admire this action?

God Kills The Firstborns!
"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)

Comment

If we believe every word in the Bible as coming from God, then it stands to reason that the violent actions from the God described in Exodus cannot give us a moral comparison to live our lives in a peaceful world.

If one wishes to believe that God possess love for His creations, then the killing of innocent children cannot possibly come from God, and therefore, these verses from the Bible must have come elsewhere. But note that if one takes the Bible's words as absolute truth, then not only did God smote the firstborn children, but all firstborn regardless of age. This means all firstborn teenagers, firstborn men & women, firstborn octogenarians, and even all firstborn cows and bulls. Regardless of how much love, charity, or goodness they may have imparted to the world, if they had the unfortunate luck to have first passed through their mother's vagina in the land of Egypt, according to the Bible, God killed them!

God Slaughters Blacks
"And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots..." (II Chronicles 14:9)

So the LORD smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. (II Chronicles 14:12)

Comment

It appears that Black Christian Bible studies programs ignore these verses, for it says that the Lord God slaughtered over a million blacks.

The association of black with evil goes far back in Western Christian culture. The early Church fathers, Origen, Jerome, and Augustine of Hippo wrote about devils appearing as Ethiopians.

White racist groups (such as the Ku Klux Klan who think of themselves as opposite of black devils) see these Biblical verses as evidence to justify their beliefs. We still hear phrases such as "Prince of Darkness" or "Black magic" which link blackness with sin.

In the story of Ham and Japheth, the word "ham" has connotations of "hot" and "dark" in Semitic languages. To the ancient Israelites, as well as some modern Jews and Christians, the "children of Ham" had dark skin and lived in eastern Africa. Thus they see the "Curse of Ham" as a link with black skin and sexual license.

Godly Head Wounds
"But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such a one as goeth on still in his trespasses. The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea: That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same." (Psalms 68:21-23)

Comment

If anyone believes these sadistic words come from God, then it might serve prudence to stay away from such people. For anyone who holds to such beliefs may very well do the same to others.

Godly Mass Murder
"And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." (I Samuel 6:19)

Comment

Here we have just one more instance of God performing mass murder, a sadistic killer far worse than Hitler, Attila the Hun or Pol Pot.

These verses should insult the intelligence of any person who thinks that God possesses a loving nature.

One should not dismiss the Old Testament's repeated demand for the vilest atrocities as something peculiar to the early Hebrews. Even today, our most atrocious wars, terrorism and hate crimes occur around the world based on ancient religious beliefs, many of them coming directly from verses in the Old and New Testament.

Kill Man, Woman, Infant
"Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (I Samuel 15:2-3)

Comment

No matter how one can justify possible crimes from adults, suckling infants have no means of acting out crimes. And what evil against God could the animals have possibly performed? Only an evil entity could kill innocent infants and animals, no matter what their parents and owners may have done.

Moses' Mass Murder
"Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18)

Comment

Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males and, roughly, 68,000 helpless women.

Consider women and children of your own family: No matter how sick they may lay, or how they may go against a religion, how would you feel if a man named Moses, claiming to speak for God, sent men into your house and hacked to pieces the women and male children? Also, how would you react if they spotted a female child, dragged her off with them to do as they please with her? Note that these innocent virgins served for their own sexual pleasures.

Midian, the land of the Midianites, did not reside in an area regarded as a natural enemy of Israel for centuries, and in fact lay hundreds of miles away from the Israelite encampment. Moses, himself, had lived in Midian as fugitive after committing his first murder. In short, Midian presented no threat to God's "Chosen People."

Nail His Head!
"Then Jael Heber's wife took a nail of the tent, and took an hammer in her hand, and went softly unto him, and smote the nail into his temples, and fastened it into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died." (Judges 4:21)

Comment

In verse 16 the Israelites surprise Sisera's army and that "there was not a man left," except Sisera who deserts his army and flees, a deed punishable by court martial today. Sisera then goes to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber. Jael takes him in, hides him under a blanket, gives him milk to quench his thirst, and promises to stand guard at the door while he sleeps. Then Jael kills Sisera!

We see no telling of the slightest shame, but rather, Jael proudly flaunts her kill. The author of this piece of Scripture makes it clear that the passage represents a deed, not only as grand and heroic but also consistent with the will of God (see Judges 4:23).

Raping And Killing
"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16)

Comment

These verses foretold the deaths of the people of Babylon. Fortunately not everyone in Babylon (now modern Iraq) fell by the sword or had their children dashed to pieces or their wives raped (just another instance of errors in the Bible). How some people who believe in an infallible Bible can accept these verses as God inspired, or morally uplifting can only give evidence to the blinding nature of belief. For if we believe these words as God inspired, then the killing of children and the raping of wives must also come as an inspiration from the Supreme Being.

Shed The Blood
"And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made the man." (Genesis 9:5-6)

Comment

Some anti-abortionists have used these words to justify the killing of abortionists. As such, these words helped inspire Michael Griffin to kill Doctor David Gunn on March 10, 1993.

Consider that the Bible never directly addresses abortion, much the less the condemnation of it. On the contrary, God himself has condoned, not only miscarriages, but has personally called for the killing of suckling infants and the bashing of children against the rocks.

(See Numbers 5:26-27, I Samuel 15:2-3, and Psalm 137:9)

Slaughter Of Innocents
"And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain." (Deuteronomy 2:34)

"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves." (Deuteronomy 3:6-7)

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Such words helped give justification to mediaeval Crusaders who slaughtered men, women and children along their way to Jerusalem and stole the spoils of the cities. Even today, many Christian military men use Scripture to justify their actions. If any soldier harbors doubt about killing his fellow humans, he need only consult a military chaplain or read the Bible to calm their worries. Even George Bush (the First), with Billy Graham beside him, proclaimed the Gulf War as "moral." George Bush (the Second) continued in his father's steps by killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi war. Such moral wars result in thousands of "utterly destroyed" innocent men, women and children.;

(For a few more examples [but not all] see also Deuteronomy 3:3, 7:2, 20:16-17 , 25:19; Joshua 6:21, 8:26, 10-28-40; Numbers 31:17-18; I Samuel 15:3; Isaiah 13:16; and Hosea 13:16)

Utter Destruction
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21)

Comment

These "God inspired" words give not a hint of mercy to innocent slaughtered women, children or the old.

After Moses and Aaron died, Joshua assumed command and the Israelites entered Jericho. Note that in the same siege, "all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the Lord: they shall come into the treasury of the Lord" (Joshua 6:19)

In the battle of Ai, the Bible tells that twelve thousand, the whole population of Ai, got slaughtered. (Josh. 8:25)

Note that many invaders throughout history have used such words as justification for wars and looting.

"Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place." (Deuteronomy 12:2-3)

Comment

The Lord, here commands the destruction of all the places where people worship other gods. There appears not a shred of religious tolerance here!

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own-- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."

--Albert Einstein

(For other examples of utter destructions, see Numbers 21:2; Deuteronomy 3:6-7, 7:2, 13:15, 20:17, Judges 21:11, II Chronicles 20:23; I Kings 20-42; Isaiah 11:15, 15:3, 9, 18; Jeremiah 12:17, 25-9, 50;21, 26, 51:3; Daniel 11;44; Amos 9:8 )

And this is just a minor sample! Get your facts straight, dick head!


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RE: Szogun's Bible school

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szogun Wrote:
The guys weren't reading their Bibles. When did I claim I was right? Spreading the word of God is different than forcing it on people. Also, what ever happened to free speech? You've said before that you're an atheist and why you are, why can't I say why I'm a Christian? Am I inferior to you? Hypocrite.

I never claimed I was an atheist. Atheism is also a belief. The real truth is that we don't know if there's a transempirical universe, and if there is one - we don't know shit about it.
Atheism has been criticized in other threads of this forum by various members, including myself. So spare me the victimization and discrimination lines...

As for "thou shalt not kill", it's just another passage amidst many others, in which god is actively calling for murder and atrocities to be committed. The 10 commandments are from the old testament, and in the old testament, the law was "an eye for an eye." You're the one who's not been reading his bible.

How the hell can you sanction the passage "dash the heads of the children of the babylonies against the rocks."?
Nobody gives a shit what you are. You're just a clueless ignorant kid trying to attract attention to himself, hoping to what? Gather followers? Convert the agnostic?
People who are curious about christianity can very well read books, documentaries, or visit their local churches. They don't need your help to do so.


I saw you say you're an atheist in one of the threads, and I'm fine with you being an atheist, I don't criticise you for it. The Old Testament law was harsh, people had made God angry and an 'eye for an eye' isn't a bad punishment, it actually makes sense. The law today can be more strict. You murder somebody, you don't get murdered, you have to spend the rest of your life in a shithole, which for most, is much worse.
"dash the heads of the children of the babylonies against the rocks."
King James Version (the true Bible)
''Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones''. It's referring to the Great Tribulation.

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