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Wall Street Journal abandons Trump for Hillary (b/c he's to her left)


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True that; when you study his political literature, he does have some resemblance of a leftist thinker, but nonetheless he is more of a right leaning centrist due to his ideas on free market capitalism and trade policy.

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Well, I don't consider Clinton to be a centrist. Smile)

On a completely different subject.


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11.05.2016 16:08
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I wasn't implying that; I was implying that although they share similar ideals, he is, regardless, right leaning.

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Trump said that the US Gov can't go broke, because it can always print more money. Greenspan said that too, and many others - from right to left. It's common knowledge. Yet Sanders wasn't even able to do that much (despite being tutored by Stephanie Kelton, who is an MMTer). Don't tell the truth, you. What are you crazy? You want people to think you're nuts?
I had a terrific kick after reading some clueless libertarian disputing Trump on that statement. Funny times indeed when neoliberals shake hands with libertarians, out of their own accord.


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Trump said that the US Gov can't go broke, because it can always print more money. Greenspan said that too, and many others - from right to left. It's common knowledge. Yet Sanders wasn't even able to do that much (despite being tutored by Stephanie Kelton, who is an MMTer). Don't tell the truth, you. What are you crazy? You want people to think you're nuts?
I had a terrific kick after reading some clueless libertarian disputing Trump on that statement. Funny times indeed when neoliberals shake hands with libertarians, out of their own accord.


And I agree with him. The government creates artificial demand through itself, practically making it invincible to hyper inflation. The problem will occur when other countries, businesses, peoples, ect, stop accepting the dollar, but that is a topic for another year.


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I had a terrific kick after reading some clueless libertarian disputing Trump on that statement. Funny times indeed when neoliberals shake hands with libertarians, out of their own accord.


How did he dispute it?

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How did he dispute it?

By saying "Hasn't this guy ever read a basic economic textbook?" Such books are only good to wipe your arse with. I sent some tweets to the author, but he hasn't replied. Earlier today I smoked some London economics professor on austerity. His only defence? "Try logic as facts often get in the way." The bloke's name is John Hearn. The guy's eating someone else's bread by teaching economic theology.


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11.05.2016 18:16
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Haha! Yes, ideology, economic or political, often lives in its own world, irrespective of reality, and this holds true with vise versa political doctrines. On a side note, I've been reading up and Trump, and have confirmed that the media is truly misrepresenting him. He would be a solid president, even if none of his policies are passes, and I can ask for nothing more. Of course, becoming a president can change a man, so I suppose it's a 'wait and see.'

I've also alienated myself from the libertarian brand, and am now 'undefined.' Turns out there are a lot of loons in that spectrum as well.

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Haha! Yes, ideology, economic or political, often lives in its own world, irrespective of reality, and this holds true with vise versa political doctrines. On a side note, I've been reading up and Trump, and have confirmed that the media is truly misrepresenting him. He would be a solid president, even if none of his policies are passes, and I can ask for nothing more. Of course, becoming a president can change a man, so I suppose it's a 'wait and see.'

I've also alienated myself from the libertarian brand, and am now 'undefined.' Turns out there are a lot of loons in that spectrum as well.

I for one am not interested in any theory that doesn't take into account or is incompatible with basic double-entry bookkeeping. I disagreed & disagree with some views of certain MMTers, and I've openly debated with them. I'm not a follower of a church, and I don't like people who insist on it being a church.
I've my own ethics. Others have theirs. As long as they understand the former, they'll be able to actually come up with proposals that will actually do what they want, instead of backfiring. Don't like Government managing things? Have it do debt jubilees (indiscriminately for all citizens, be they debtors or creditors) + basic income (let people use that money as they see fit). In this way the Gov can run appropriate macro policy while letting people organize themselves.
I'll say it. In a Clinton vs Trump scenario, I'd vote for the Donald. Best case scenario, he deficit spends enough, improving the economy, and will strike warmer relations with Putin - which, for me, living in Romania, would be a good thing. I don't wish for a belligerent neighbor, nor do I wish for trade sanctions making life difficult for eastern European countries who rely on Russian imports.
Worst case scenario, Trump screws up, and the GOP won't be able to produce another POTUS for several decades to come. Which in and of itself is not a bad thing.


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Sanders V Trump is well; The fact alone that so many corporate(oligarch) and union(socialist) controlled organizations that attack him should be evidence enoug that he is out for the American people. I don't like basic income; people would spend the money irresponsibly, society would become hectic. A better system, as I have said, is to promote free market capitalism and better education so that people can take care of themselves, and solely themselves. No handouts. Such a society would be the best in the world, and is, in my view, the American Dream. High GNP, high income, high employment, largely a small producer economy... Without government assistance, or anybody's assistance for matter, and everyone will have private property. Basically Scandinavia, minus the socialistic aspects, and is what trump advocates for. No more illegals, no more terrorists(that we can catch), enormous economic liberty, fair taxation, decentralized(free market) public schooling, ect.

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