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Life is continuous movement. All "evolution", all organizing movement, consists in conciousness. One conscious cell awakes another, and so forth. If there is a halt in it, movement degrades, solidifies into organs, and then necroticizes. A body is actually not made out of organs, but intestines, veins. The things that most resemble units, or organs, are the digestive vehicles, like the liver; i.e., the centres of decreased energy, or flow. The veins should have no breaks whatever, or there is a depletion in oxygen. The veins are a vortex. So take a deep breath, stretch out your hands, and transmute the dead matter in these intestines into a vortex.

If one man reports the corruption of another, grant him rank - the possibility of higher office if he desires it. The way to run the state is to give office to those that respect law, and not to remit the death penalty. If anyone in the public performs a useful function, then they are precisely the people that should receive higher public office in conformity with their talents. All functions should have rank and office. One has good administration by not sparing talent upon it. Do not allow high talent any other course than administrative office. With properly officed talent, one does not need to worry about rigidity in any enstructurement.

Watchdog groups is a codeword for not giving people their due; they are precisely where your next in line should come from. The "separation of powers" I believe in is that one can watch another. Start by granting office for no reason other than merit - which includes fucking the corrupt. There are many preventative methodologies. But a clean administration still consists in cleaning office. Start by giving rewards and office to those seeking to clean the administration - and end by having a clean administration. When the administration is clean, abolish the cleaning of the administration with an assurance of death. Then talent can be spent upon things of utility rather than white blood cells. The immune system starts by killing the bacteria, and ends with it's death. Or it dies.

I'm basically a totalitarian in the sense that I believe in a principle of "fuck the people acting on their own, they're obviously causing problems." If you're doing well on your own, it means you're not doing well with another. So if you can do well, get ready for office. Because otherwise I'm giving the resources to someone more useful. If you do something good for the public, you can have a flat reward. But beyond that, you better get ready for office.

Keep a close eye on the bitches. People decide all kinds of nonsense, and purchase bullshit! Give the resources to someone serving the public. Do it through law. All roles consist of facilitating. So facilitate, or get ready for transfer. Someone else can do the job - or will be able to, after a couple decades of early child care and education funding. There is no limit to the utility of resources, or the wastefulness of private indulgence. The height of energy is the sun, and the sun has no organs. The rest is so much dead matter in the intestines, awaiting transmutation.

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http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/saxon/serv...=bilingual
The intelligent sovereign makes the law select men. He makes the law measure merits and makes no arbitrary regulation. Able men cannot be obscured, bad characters cannot be disguised; falsely praised fellows cannot be advanced, wrongly defamed people cannot be degraded. Between ruler and minister distinction becomes clear and order is attained.

Everything has its function; every material has its utility. When everybody works according to his special qualification, both superior and inferior will not have to do anything. Let roosters herald the dawn and let cats watch for rats. When everything exercises its special qualification, the ruler will not have to do anything. If the ruler has to exert any special skill of his own, it means that affairs are not going right.

The state affairs may be scattered in the four directions but the key to their administration is in the centre. The sage holding this key in hand, people from the four directions come to render him meritorious services. He remains empty and waits for their services, and they will exert their abilities by themselves. With the conditions of the four seas clearly in mind, he can see the Yang by means of the Yin.

The sage holds oneness in hand and rests in tranquillity, letting names appoint themselves to tasks and affairs settle themselves. He appoints them to office in accordance with their words, and thus lets them choose their tasks. He confers upon them powers in accordance with their needs and thus lets them raise their ranks. Thus, he rectifies their names first, then works with them, and finally makes them accomplish the tasks. Therefore, he promotes them through the examination of names.

Any ruler wishing to give peace to the state must disperse the partisans. If he does not disperse their partisans, they will enlarge their parties. Any ruler wishing to maintain order in his country must adjust the distribution of gifts. If he does not adjust the distribution of gifts, rapacious men will seek for extraordinary profits.

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The means whereby the intelligent ruler controls men are two handles only. The two handles are chastisement and commendation. To inflict death or torture upon culprits, is called chastisement; to bestow encouragements or rewards on men of merit, is called commendation.

Now supposing the lord of men placed the authority of punishment and the profit of reward not in his hands but let others administer the affairs of reward and punishment instead, then everybody in the country would fear them and slight the ruler, turn to them and away from the ruler.

If such is the case, all would practice favouritism and despise public law. They would frequent the gates of the residences of cunning men, but never once would they visit the court of the sovereign. For one hundred times they would ponder the interests of private families, but never once would they scheme for the state welfare. Should loyal ministers meet danger and death without committing any crime, good ministers would withdraw. Should wicked ministers enjoy security and prosperity without rendering any meritorious service, villainous ministers would advance. This is the beginning of decay.

The lord of men, whenever he wants to suppress culprits, must see norm accord with name and word never differ from task. Whenever a minister utters a word, the ruler should in accordance with his word assign him a task to accomplish, and in accordance with the task call the work to account. If the work corresponds with the task, and the task corresponds with the word, he should be rewarded. On the contrary, if the work is not equivalent to the task, and the task not equivalent to the word, he should be punished.


http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/saxon/serv...=bilingual
Stupid men want prosperity but dislike the true path to prosperity. They all hate danger but welcome the way to danger. Severe penalty and heavy conviction are hated by the people, but by them the state is governed. Mercy and pity on the hundred surnames and mitigation of penalty and punishment are welcomed by the people, but by them the state is endangered.

Duke Hsiao enforced the Law of Lord Shang to the utmost, until at last the people came to know that men guilty of crimes would infallibly be censured and informers against culprits became many. Hence the people dared not violate the law and penalty could be inflicted on nobody. Therefore, the state became orderly, the army strong, the territory extensive, and the sovereign honourable. The cause of all these was nothing other than heavy punishment for sheltering criminals and big rewards for denouncing culprits.

To have law and tact, reward and punishment, in governing the state, is the same as to have a solid carriage and a good horse in travelling on land and have a fast boat and an easy helm in travelling on water. Whoever has them in his grip will eventually accomplish his purpose. But Scholars of the present age in counselling the lord of men do not say, "Make use of the august and commanding position and thereby harass the wicked and villainous".

All stupid scholars in the world do not know the actual conditions of order and chaos but chatter nonsense and chant so many hackneyed books to disturb the course of government. Though their wisdom and thought are not sufficient to avoid pitfalls, they dare to absurdly reproach the upholders of tact. Whoever listens to their words, will incur danger. Whoever employs their schemes, will invite confusion. Such is the greatest height of stupidity as well as the greatest extreme of calamity.

http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/saxon/serv...=bilingual
In ancient times, the early kings exerted their forces to renovate the people and doubled their efforts to clarify the law. As the law was made clear, loyal subjects were encouraged. As punishment was made definite, wicked subjects were suppressed. It was Ch`in whose loyal subjects were encouraged and wicked ones were suppressed and whose territory was expanded and sovereign was glorified. It was the states to the east of Mount Hua whose officials formed factions, associated for selfish purposes and thereby obscured the right way of government and committed crookedness in secret, and whose territories were dismembered and sovereigns humiliated. That disorderly and weak states go to ruin, is known to everybody.

If measures for political order are clarified, the state, though small in size, will become rich. If reward and punishment are dignified and of faith, the people, though small in number, will become strong. If reward and punishment follow no regulations, the state, however large in size, will be weak

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Heavy militarization and egalitarian socialism.
Heavy militarization because super powers keep putting missile silos, fanatics, spy equipment, ect on my border for no apparent reason(each of which I respond to swiftly and scare them off. Possibly because I may have 'nukes' and the missiles to launch them.) Egalitarian socialism because it keeps my population happy (I don't feel like explaining because it should be self explanatory) Generally speaking, I mainly do things for the good of the plebeian and I constantly attack tycoons. The only time this doesn't hold true is when a see an 'opportunity' to grab a little power myself. Like, let's say, becoming a unofficial dictator and monarch at the same time because of an 'accident' with the last monarch Wink

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Heavy militarization and egalitarian socialism.
Heavy militarization because super powers keep putting missile silos, fanatics, spy equipment, ect on my border for no apparent reason(each of which I respond to swiftly and scare them off. Possibly because I may have 'nukes' and the missiles to launch them.) Egalitarian socialism because it keeps my population happy (I don't feel like explaining because it should be self explanatory) Generally speaking, I mainly do things for the good of the plebeian and I constantly attack tycoons. The only time this doesn't hold true is when a see an 'opportunity' to grab a little power myself. Like, let's say, becoming a unofficial dictator and monarch at the same time because of an 'accident' with the last monarch Wink

The proletarian bourgeoisie, as it were Hehe


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After playing this game for awhile, I find it quite ironic how the original questionnaire labels me as corrupt and evil; yet, when I apply my philosophy it quickly turns into society of highly educated and little to no corruption with low unemployment... Likewise, when I pick things that I think will make people unhappy they are happy... Perhaps there is a political bias or contradiction in the game mechanics?

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dragonflare88 Wrote:
After playing this game for awhile, I find it quite ironic how the original questionnaire labels me as corrupt and evil; yet, when I apply my philosophy it quickly turns into society of highly educated and little to no corruption with low unemployment... Likewise, when I pick things that I think will make people unhappy they are happy... Perhaps there is a political bias or contradiction in the game mechanics?

Template state also impacts the description. So even if you've chosen progressively on the question tab, if you chose an Iran template state - it's likely that dictatorship will still be part of the overall description, until you change things via task options. Wink


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Somewhere between DeLeon, Trotsky, and Benn.

Capitalism's greatest tool is the Reserve Army of Labor. In any country that industrializes, the working class ultimately organize and agitate for better working conditions. As this happens, the investor class looks for other places to find the cheapest possible labor. After the US fully industrialized, global free trade agreements allowed corporations based in the US to produce goods and services in places like Vietnam, the Philippines, and China, where labor time is much much cheaper. In each of these countries, workers began at slave wages and began to organize to demand better. Now, Chinese corporations are developing Africa, to shift the Reserve Army of Labor there. These workers will start out at slave wages, and in time they too will organize to demand better conditions. That leaves few places for corporations to go in search of cheaper labor time.

They will attempt to cheapen labor time in already developed countries. In the US, most of the GOP candidates for the 2016 Presidential nomination have proposed abolishing the minimum wage. This would allow corporations to shift low end jobs back to the US and exploit worker again as they did prior to the great struggles of the late 1800's and early 1900's.

If they fail to roll back wages and African workers agitate for better conditions, corporations have nowhere left to find cheaper labor time. That is when Socialism becomes possible. A global organized effort of workers resisting capitalism will create Socialism.

In the meantime, Socialist parties must work to keep the wage rollbacks from happening. Their job is to support workers in securing better conditions and in keeping them once they've been won. If they don't, labor struggles will be like punching a balloon.

Socialism is at its core the ultimate expression of democracy. Therefore, Socialist parties must remain democratic and not fall into the trap of autocracy. Regimes who become autocratic transform into something Marx would have considered abhorrent. They must assume power in multi-party elections and cede power peaceably if defeated at the polls, to come back and try again later. The time to take up arms isn't when you lose an election. The time to take up arms is when you win the election and the corporations send in the tanks anyway, as they did to Allende.

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Love the way you think Edvard.


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Helsworth Wrote:

dragonflare88 Wrote:
After playing this game for awhile, I find it quite ironic how the original questionnaire labels me as corrupt and evil; yet, when I apply my philosophy it quickly turns into society of highly educated and little to no corruption with low unemployment... Likewise, when I pick things that I think will make people unhappy they are happy... Perhaps there is a political bias or contradiction in the game mechanics?

Template state also impacts the description. So even if you've chosen progressively on the question tab, if you chose an Iran template state - it's likely that dictatorship will still be part of the overall description, until you change things via task options. Wink


Hmmm that's interesting. It explains why my USA play through (CSAA) is slightly more happy.


Edvard Kardelj Wrote:
Somewhere between DeLeon, Trotsky, and Benn.

Capitalism's greatest tool is the Reserve Army of Labor. In any country that industrializes, the working class ultimately organize and agitate for better working conditions. As this happens, the investor class looks for other places to find the cheapest possible labor. After the US fully industrialized, global free trade agreements allowed corporations based in the US to produce goods and services in places like Vietnam, the Philippines, and China, where labor time is much much cheaper. In each of these countries, workers began at slave wages and began to organize to demand better. Now, Chinese corporations are developing Africa, to shift the Reserve Army of Labor there. These workers will start out at slave wages, and in time they too will organize to demand better conditions. That leaves few places for corporations to go in search of cheaper labor time.

They will attempt to cheapen labor time in already developed countries. In the US, most of the GOP candidates for the 2016 Presidential nomination have proposed abolishing the minimum wage. This would allow corporations to shift low end jobs back to the US and exploit worker again as they did prior to the great struggles of the late 1800's and early 1900's.

If they fail to roll back wages and African workers agitate for better conditions, corporations have nowhere left to find cheaper labor time. That is when Socialism becomes possible. A global organized effort of workers resisting capitalism will create Socialism.

In the meantime, Socialist parties must work to keep the wage rollbacks from happening. Their job is to support workers in securing better conditions and in keeping them once they've been won. If they don't, labor struggles will be like punching a balloon.

Socialism is at its core the ultimate expression of democracy. Therefore, Socialist parties must remain democratic and not fall into the trap of autocracy. Regimes who become autocratic transform into something Marx would have considered abhorrent. They must assume power in multi-party elections and cede power peaceably if defeated at the polls, to come back and try again later. The time to take up arms isn't when you lose an election. The time to take up arms is when you win the election and the corporations send in the tanks anyway, as they did to Allende.


WW3 will happen before the capitalists let socialism take over. It will be interesting, there will be three sides: the autocratic socialists, the democratic socialists, and Vis versa for the capitalists; the irony is that all will claim that they serve for the welfare of the people.

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